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Bugy, Who said anything about this being a game? Both ramps and deramps all evil IMO. Anyone stupid enough to sell or buy on the back of what is posted on BB is completely their own fault. I seem to remember you saying in a previous post you fell for all the hype?.... 
" Better deramps required " ???? This is NOT a game, muddy, a lot of people have lost a lot of money because of people stating facts that never come to fruition. And besides, if it were a game, the "derampers" would be winning hands down, wouldn't they ? What we need are better and more rampers so that people can get some of their money back
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