Boring Bernie
14 Feb 2018
Q1 Figures / Divi Dodging Well, despite the Q1 figures being pretty good, I sold out at ~1610p before we went ex-divi.On the face of it, with the sp closing today at 1540p, and the divi being 65 cents / share or about 58p pre withholding tax, that was a good decision. Plainly my earlier reductions at ~1405p and ~1550p weren't quite so well timed though, because that gives an average selling price of ~1520p.Still, all in all, after five or six years, it's been a good run, and I might get back on board if the price seems right. Hopefully, my tax refund will turn up some time this year as well !
PHILKES
22 Jan 2018
Re: TUI Results Well I have e mailed the German Tax authorities again today as we are now approaching 5 months from when I submitted original claim.Previous updates have not advised that I have made any error in my claim just that there is a delay.Seems too much hassle to me, however, I agree Boring Bernie this has been a great performer & continues to rise as I speak.Talking from personal experience TUI consistently offer good value, good quality holiday experiences whuch we have found to be significantly of a higher quality than Thomas Cook. To the point now we specifically look mainly for TUI holidays.
Boring Bernie
19 Jan 2018
Re: TUI Results Philkesre "Share has done so well over last 12 months maybe time to bail out just prior to Ex Div?"... and the sp is continuing to do well ! Although I still intend to sell up before we go ex-divi, the old adage about letting your winners run comes to mind, so I may well be cutting my nose off to spite my face by doing so !The only obvious danger with divi dodging is that, between you selling up and then buying back, if the drop in the sp between those times is less than what you'd expect due the ex-divi part, then you might not save enough to cover the withholding tax.For me, though I like TUI, and have held them for a number of years going back to the pre-merger times, I'm not particularly attached to them, so if i lose out be reducing ( and, lets face it, I already have lost out ) and then selling up, I'm not bothered about it, I just find the withholding tax annoying and time consuming to reclaim
PHILKES
07 Jan 2018
Re: TUI Results Just checked (HL) EX Dividend 12/2/18 payable 16/2/18 at 0.65 Euro per share.So I estimate around 57p per share.Share has done so well over last 12 months maybe time to bail out just prior to Ex Div?
PHILKES
05 Jan 2018
Re: TUI Results Seems like a good idea to sell up pre ex div. I am still waiting-submitted claim end of August & have chased up to advise they have received claim but have a backlog/delay.
Boring Bernie
04 Jan 2018
Re: TUI Results Sold another block at just over £15.50, so that's 10% more than the first block I sold, so I'm plainly none too bright !Havn't heard anything from the German tax authorities yet, but I still expect to have sold up here before we go ex-divi ( with, possibly, a view to buying back in after the ex-div date )
PHILKES
20 Dec 2017
Re: TUI Results I may do the same 'divi dodging' as I am not convinced I will ever see the re-credit of the tax reclaim as we are now some way over 3 months.
Boring Bernie
13 Dec 2017
Re: TUI Results Results were marginally better than expected, and it's good to see the guidance of 10%+ growth in EBITA being extended in time, but I still took some profits earlier here by selling roughly a third of my holding at a bit over £14.If it wasn't for the fact that reclaiming the withholding tax was such a pain in the posterior, I'd have likely held on, but I'm going to give "divi dodging" a try before we go ex-divi in February, and will likely sell up totally before the ex-divi date, with a view to possibly buying back once the sp has gone ex-divi.Also, I was buying back in the days when the sp was between 5 and 8 quid, so it's probably time to take some profits anyway.
Boring Bernie
13 Dec 2017
Re: Withholding Tax Thanks for the info Philkes.I won't bother chasing them up for my reclaiming of the withholding tax then !
Gatherer
13 Dec 2017
TUI Results From Proactive Investors.TUI delivers full year earnings growth on strong demand for hotels and cruisesShare 07:52 13 Dec 2017 TUI expects 10% increase in underlying earnings in the current financial year TUI's carrier was hit by a high level of staff calling in sick during the year Travel operator TUI AG (LON:TUI) delivered growth in underlying earnings in 2017, driven by a strong performance in its hotel and cruise division.In the year to 30 September 2017, underlying earnings (EBITA) came to €1.1bn, up 10.2% on last year at actual exchange rates or 12.0% at constant currency. Turnover edged up 8.1% on a reported basis or 11.7% at constant currency to €18.5bn.The hotels and cruise unit was the star performer with underlying EBITA up 131%, helping to offset the impact of higher than average levels of pilots and crew calling in sick at TUI’s carrier TUIfly at the start of the year and Air Berlin’s collapse.TUI took a €15mln hit related to receivables for aircraft and crew leased to Air Berlin, which filed for insolvency in August.Return on invested capital (ROIC) rose 1.7 percentage points to 23.6%.The dividend was raised by 12.0% to €0.65 each. Looking ahead, the group said it continues to expect to achieve double digit annual earnings growth with less seasonality, strong cash conversion and robust return on invested capital (ROIC) performance.In fiscal year 2018, TUI estimates a 10% increase in underlying EBITA and reiterated its guidance for at least a 10% underlying EBITA compound annual growth rate through to fiscal year 2020.“We have a clear ambition - strong strategic positioning, strong earnings growth and strong cash generation, with underlying EBITA doubling between FY14 and FY20,” TUI said.TUI said winter trading was in line with expectations and has seen an improvement in Turkey.On Brexit, the company said it has put contingency plans in place to manage a potential disruption to its operations. UK airlines have raised concerns that leaving the EU without a Brexit deal would mean losing all flying rights to the bloc.TUI called for a transition agreement after Brexit to ensure a smooth transition.“Despite the Brexit backdrop, the UK continues to deliver a resilient performance in line with our expectations,” the company said.Gatherer
PHILKES
13 Dec 2017
Re: Withholding Tax Still little progress being made.'Due to the very high volume of applications within the DBA with the UK and due to the Brexit I have to inform you that the processing time of the o. G. Application for several months from receipt of the application'Application confirmed received 7/9/17.Will just have to sit & wait. In meantime SP continues to rise.
PHILKES
24 Oct 2017
Re: Monarch & Positive Impact on TUI At least I have received an e mail response toi my chase up query.Confirmed application was received Sep 2017 & 'to be patient'.
PHILKES
19 Oct 2017
Re: Monarch & Positive Impact on TUI Decided to submit query form Boring Bernie today as thought no harm in sending it. Will update with any further progress.Thanks for the form.
PHILKES
17 Oct 2017
Re: Monarch & Positive Impact on TUI Thank you Boring Bernie-I will give them a little longer I think you had said 6 weeks or so last time. I am at 5 weeks now. So will may be chase up at end of October if I have heard nothing by then.
Boring Bernie
17 Oct 2017
Re: Monarch & Positive Impact on TUI PhilkesThere's a contact form at [link]
