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onedb1 08 Jul 2015

Re: 3rd Profit Warning am not in as 550 never held support , always a bit lame in reality that 50% retrace level .Are you short with a position or its just a view LG ? Good to see you on good form ) am on a very quiet spell

nk1999 08 Jul 2015

Credit Suisse From ADVFN:"Credit Suisse upgraded Tate & Lyle to 'neutral' from 'underperform' following the recent underperformance that has seen the shares fall below its price target.CS noted that the shares have de-rated to 15 times this year's estimated earnings and the dividend offers further support."

oddballl 06 Jul 2015

Re: Continued Share Price Fall If you've ever had greek coffee.... so sweet. but now they wont be able to afford the sugar...so I guess they will all be drinking 'mettrio'..

lambrini girl 03 Jul 2015

Re: 3rd Profit Warning bounce areas...560...468..300...thats short..medium..long range targets<<<told u back in Feb..1 down..2 to go..

Broncomaniac 03 Jul 2015

Re: Continued Share Price Fall The price is down more than the market. I suspect there have been more sellers as people reviewed their position following the latest trading update, but also stops getting taken out and people just selling due to downward momentum of the price. Hopefully 500p will be the psychological suppport level needed to stop the slide.

glasgowboy 03 Jul 2015

Re: Continued Share Price Fall Hi BroncoIn your opinion any reason for the steady decline of the past few weeks or is it being affected by market conditions which takes all companies down good and bad ?

Broncomaniac 02 Jul 2015

Re: Continued Share Price Fall Well we managed to get past the ex-div date without the SP breaching 500p. I hope it can find some support at this level now. Slightly regretting holding on these now, I thought it might take a while to get back above 600p, but I didn't expect it to go so low in the meantime. At least my dividend reinvestment will pick up more shares if the price stays at this level.

onedb1 10 Jun 2015

Re: Continued Share Price Fall Paul VT May have reached a good turning point here . I am looking at it with interest now , charting wise this is at a high low 50% retrace level , around the 550p could well be a good reversal point to enter Tate . Just my view no advice intended

Paul V T 09 Jun 2015

Continued Share Price Fall The bad news on TATE, at least for the next year or so has been out for some time, yet the share price keeps drifting south as we head towards the ex-date.Any thoughts on why, short selling with people planning close out after it has gone ex-div or just people ignoring the divi and giving up on the stock?The question for myself, is why I bought this stock (recovery, which has been an error) and why I am still holding it (for the divi, but thinking I should have sold)

nk1999 02 Jun 2015

From Citywire:"Tate & Lyle starting to turn around after tough yearTate & Lyle (TATE) is starting over, trying to put a difficult financial year behind it and focus on what could be a much better 2016.Jefferies analyst Martin Deboo retained his ‘hold’ recommendation but lowered the target price from 650p to 605p. The shares fell 1.6% to 573p yesterday.‘Improved disclosure and a new chief financial officer who wants to deliver against sensible expectations. It all adds up to a Lennonesque starting over [at Tate & Lyle],’ he said.‘We think there is room to beat in full-year 2016, which keeps things interesting. But at 17x price/earnings, this still feels very much in the price to us.’He added that ‘higher growth, pure and simple’ would be needed to facilitate a better rating."

nk1999 29 May 2015

SocGen From ADVFN:"Societe Generale cut its price target on Tate & Lyle to 600p from 660p to reflect downgrades to its earnings estimates following the company's full-year results.The bank cut its full-year 2016 adjusted pre-tax profit forecast by 3% to £205m to reflect a weaker outlook for the bulk ingredients division given deterioration in ethanol profitability.Meanwhile, a slower forecast profit recovery in sucralose, combined with higher tax and interest assumptions resulted in an 8% cut to the bank's FY 2017 EPS estimate, to 35.8p.SocGen said that lower earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation, stepped up capex and cash restructuring meant full-year 2015 free cash flow (FCF) of £66m did not cover the £130m dividend cost.In full-year 2016, capex will step up further to £200m as Tate addresses supply chain inefficiencies at its speciality food ingredients, resulting in another year with the dividend uncovered by FCF, noted SocGen.Closing SP today = 582p."Tate's 10% share price drop over the past twelve months was driven by sharper deterioration in earning per shares, which does not leave the valuation overly compelling in our view given residual risks inherent in the high fructose corn syrup profit stream," said SocGen, which rates the stock at 'hold'. "

nk1999 29 May 2015

Re: I'm out at 584.18p Rhigos,How do you get the shortlist of Golden Cross shares mate? That will be interesting, even though I am not a fan of TA myself.Cheers.nk

Rhigos 29 May 2015

Re: I'm out at 584.18p LKH,"..hope, for your sake, that your Golden Cross doesn't morph into a Golden Shower."Yuk, perish the thought, no chance of that.Unless bad profit warning announced while market closed stop losses should ensure I come out with a profit on my fastest rising shares. Point is, it takes too long to analyse hundreds of companies for winners. Golden Crosses and data mining cut down number of shares to look at so that they can be studied in more detail. I would not have noticed Ricardo if not for Golden Cross. It is not just about stock picking but about picking right time to buy and for that matter the right time to sell.

LK Hyman 29 May 2015

Re: I'm out at 584.18p Rhigos,"Golden Cross + research. LKH will hate the TA part of decision"You're not wrong, m8. I chust hope, for your sake, that your Golden Cross doesn't morph into a Golden Shower.I used to hold Tate but sold it some years back. It's always seemed like a serial disappointer and the latest news on Splenda confirms my view. The CEO might turn it around but he's been en poste for five years now, so I'm certainly not tempted to get back in on the off chance that he can turn the ship around.LKH on the flybridge

Rhigos 29 May 2015

I'm out at 584.18p Sold at market 8 minutes before market closed yesterday. Could have got my earlier limit price of 590 this morning but SP not looking too bullish. Overall loss of 11.1% inc dealing charges in 6 weeks. Must do more research before doing recovery plays, lesson learnt.DSC now my top performing share, AER of 175% since purchase 44 days ago (not expecting that sort of rate of rise to continue for very long). Bought because of Golden Cross + research. LKH will hate the TA part of decision. RCDO in 2nd place with AER of 147% after buying 4.5 months ago. Same reasons, Golden Cross + research.

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