nest_of_rampers
08 Sep 2019
Provexis I have forgotten who MM was ? Anyway maybe the Chinese to the rescue , big business there knows how their people think - preventive. To me the GMAF cancer cures ( sorry BB I believe it! ) and David Noakes being jailed just shows how bent it all is in the West, there is even a site about it. mhracorrupt.st Home - mhracorrupt.st The mhra protect the billion dollar monopolies of the big pharmaceuticals & ruthlessly close down inexpensive but effective scientifically proven treatments
redprince
08 Sep 2019
Provexis Well the late non exec DSM director Krijn Rietveld told me that exclusivity was considered on a case by case basis.Bear in mind the number of territories and product formats that we have … it makes sense. I still feel irked though by the MM debacle with their much talked about shot format that never got off the blocks.That was a shocker and we never found out why it got stopped. Problem for us is that we are not privy to the many discussions that have and hopefully are going on with prospective partners.That is the hard part.It is a real test of faith and patience!
nest_of_rampers
08 Sep 2019
Provexis In a way non exclusivity is the correct stance to take with a product that will benefit everyone. I take FF and I do not expect to have blood clot issues , I have tried to spread the message but people are just not interested, it takes a realist to see the merit and there seems to be a lack of them.
redprince
08 Sep 2019
Provexis NOR - i understand your cynicism after 10 years of hearing the same cut and paste about large brand owners.However we are seeing real commitment from the Chinese. Steve Morrison the former science director mentioned Unilever to me who along with CC were the two big names who were sniffing around 9 or 10 years ago.He mentioned lack of exclusivity as being the deal breaker ofr at least one of these companies. If unit cost were reduced it increases the margin of safety espcecially if exclusivity is not being offered. Only time will tell.
nest_of_rampers
08 Sep 2019
Provexis Your point about unit costs is a good one but I’d have thought that wouldn’t have put Coca cola off. As I have said before if people make money with out spending more then why would they bother . The Chinese and their illness prevention stance + the air quality issue is a good fit with FF, so yes there is hope , after 10 years it has all but evaporated with me though. Anyway not worth selling so here till the end, and at this level I might even add to bring my Ave down.
redprince
08 Sep 2019
Provexis NOR…fwiw i understand how you feel especially given that you had high hopes around the placing that you supported.To be fair to IF i think he was not being disingeneous with you at that time.Sometimes we have to stand back and put tbe reality filters on and weigh up what we hope might happen against the track record and recent form for a clearer guide of what is likely to happen. Look if By-Health had gone cold i would be very concerned but they are pressing on and the 2 year delay has underlined their commitment given the thoroughness of their actions in trying to get SAMR approval. As a 10 year holder i urge you to hang in for a bit longer…i do believe that By-Health will deliver and that may lead to lower unit costs for certain formats of FF.I know that thst would be a game changer as high unit cost has deterred the bigger entities from coming to the table. Everything to play for here. Aimho.Dyor.
wheelds
07 Sep 2019
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wheelds
07 Sep 2019
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wheelds
06 Sep 2019
Provexis Fruitflow as a healthy heart product is still there. and if By-Health start producing Fruitflow in China then revenues will pick up and this factor will reflect the share price. Taking a lot longer then expected but still a great product to invest in. IMHO facebook.com Fruitflow Plus Fruitflow Plus, Reading, England. 330 likes · 15 talking about this. Fruitflow®+ Omega-3 offers the first 100% natural, safe, scientifically proven solution for healthy blood flow and cardiovascular... Fruitflow Plus (@fruitflowplus) • Instagram photos and videos
wheelds
06 Sep 2019
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nest_of_rampers
06 Sep 2019
Provexis Thanks Rp good reply you are right I am overly glum. IF lied to me Re the 2p Placing , it wasn’t a good idea at all , SP 80% down since then same as my PXS holding .
redprince
06 Sep 2019
Provexis NOR - while none of us can be sure where this will go from here, i think you are being overly pessimistic. Perhaps a major portion of your disenchantment stems from an expectation that was in part formed around the time of the placing that you participated in…you were expecting things to have progressed much more rapidly from that point? I felt the initial rns on By-Health sounded a little too good to be true promising product to market by end of 2017. It has taken much longer - no guarantees at all but they are not spending all that money on SAMR applications and clinical testing for the sake of it. This is still very much in play and we have a major shareholder who i suspect is helping to keep the expenses in check. Aimho.Dyor.
nest_of_rampers
05 Sep 2019
Provexis i was like Wheelds once , PXS has failed , the big money men in the West would have done something with FF ages ago if it was a goer. The reality is that he NWO liberal globalists what the oldies to die off quick rather than live longer.
redprince
05 Sep 2019
Provexis Peppapig - i understand where you are coming from but you cannot be suggesting that DSM and By-Health have not had these discussions some time ago given that we are at a reasonably advanced stage? The only worrying nag for me is that i am certain a lack of exclusivity has cost us dearly before - MM and the much anticipated Sirco shot being a case in point.
peppapig
04 Sep 2019
Provexis This could be vey bad news. You would expect By Health to demand some exclusivity to launch their new products in China, bearing in mind their investment so far, and won’t be happy to see DSM offering it to all. Although, does it apply to Taiwan only, and not the mainland ??? The clues in the web address Wheely Just on your previous what if email - another fine example of your nocturnal nonsense, shredded elsewhere by another poster. Get a grip lad.
