Nanoco Group Forum

Kuss I think you are right on the money with that overview.

Bonzoful, you are right but the delegated act didn't enter into force. But that was a new act, not the revocation of the exemption, which is different. The exemption is still valid as we stand. But just a question of time before it's revoked and the reason is simple: cadmium in consumer appliances has no future. If people can't see that they are deranged... So QD vision and nanosys better get their cad free up to scratch in the next 12 months or good night.

The shorting question is the wrong question. At the end of the day, either Nanoco are a success or a failure. The shorting camp know, no better than the longs. It's all a game and in the short term a psychological one. I liked Nanoco's EU challenge and the fact that the EU Parliament voted so significantly in their favour. It's a sign of the times imo. The waves of change continue but we all live in the present.....

Yes, it's true vested interests here. The commission chose to ignore the last report. Fortunately, they didn't get the extension in regards to LED lighting, which remain cad free. Nanoco's petition could make things difficult for the Commission. Maybe this will be referred to the EU court for a decision. The EU environmental lobby is also quite powerful. They won't be happy with cadmium coming back to displays...

Pretty appalling that the EU Commission can just delay all action post expiry of the exemption in breach of the RoHS directive and contrary to the vast majority of the EU Parliament. Fortunately the petition is going back to the Parliament ... !

Yes, shadowcity, everyone tends to see samsung as a negative, but I think the opposite. Without them the EU Parliament couldn't have voted against extending the exemption on cadmium; as market leaders they have made a clear statement that only cad free is the futures; their Qdot TV's are selling like hot cakes taking market share from LG and the rest; their next generation Qdot TV's to be launched at CES in Jan. LG have to catch up as affordable OLED is still years away. Qdots will spearhead the UHD drive to the mass market and samsung will require larger and cheaper supply of Qdots. Can Dow produce more and more cheaply than Hansol .. Anyway, it all rests on that factory coming on stream soon. I'm hoping the results will coincide with good news out of korea.

The shorters are just traders, that's all they know. Unfortunately, due to the highly complex nature of this science no-one really has any idea fundamentally about the subject. It is all guesswork. That's why some faith in management is crucial. When the CEO says there will be multiple contracts on completion of the factory it is important that he delivers. We await news .. strong markets ahead, to which should help. Everyone gets fearful but the capitalist system kicks in and cycles play the same tune every year..

ticking up nicely.... Could easily double from here if there is a positive update on production from Dow's factory. I assume that was the intention behind the decision to build and commission it...

Interesting review here of LG's non OLED or QD TV's. The point is they aren't up to scratch. If they don't go QDot and soon they'll lose out to other Qdot rivals..[link]

The reactors in Korea are at least X10 the size of runcorn, so it's normal customers would want to sample the dots first imo. We know that the price of the Korean dots are significantly cheaper than from Runcorn. How do they compare with the competition is the question. Still only Samsung who can make cad free in any volume for a commercial product. Edelman said he expected multiple orders on completion of the Korean factory. We know they are calibrating multiple lines in Korea. Soon, very soon we'll find out if he was telling the truth or not. Many of the really big OEMs still to show their hand with QDots. The Japanese, sharp, panasonic and Sony have stayed clear of cadmium. Be interesting to find out who Vestel have sourced their Qdots from for their 2016 TVs. They are a huge European producer and will be well aware of the imminent removal of the RoHS exemption for cadmium in displays.