firewire1
13 Oct 2017
Re: Gordon's pink gin ... one for the la... 'Diageo risks making Gordon's a laughing stock with this girlyboy launch. It'll become the Blossom Hill of gin if he's not careful'Lol...I thought it was already LKH, give me a Hendricks or Bloom anyday - anyway captain, ginger over ice with a large wedge of lime squeezed in for good measure - that's my poison!FW (still supporting DGE, even though I'm out for now)
LK Hyman
13 Oct 2017
Re: Gordon's pink gin ... one for the la... old_punter,"its time to smite the prune."Is that a euphemism, m8?LKH on the flybridge
old_punter
13 Oct 2017
Re: Gordon's pink gin ... one for the la... I suppose this is the big company response to the craft gin craze, DGE think they are missing out. Would you believe, there is an ft.com video on craft gin, and the Norfolk Club to which I belong and which is so far behind the curve has decided to hold a gin tasting. I encountered some proferred raspberry flavoured gin a few weeks ago, disappointing it was, but maybe there is a new audience of millenials, chavs et al who think gin is old hat so haven't tried it and are now discovering gin having being seduced by the craft, artisinal hype.A really cold G&T is one of the best pre lunch aperitifs IMO, and en passant I tried one the other day with the bog standard Schweppes tonic swiftly followed by another with the much touted Fevertree. I was expecting to prefer the Fevertree but no I thought the maligned Schweppes was better. Speaking of which, at 6pm GMT its time to smite the prune.
Bill1703
13 Oct 2017
Re: Gordon's pink gin ... one for the la... "... It will serve them right if people say the same thing about this gin innovation horlicks."What! Horlicks flavoured gin!?! It gets worse... Can't see that catching on... though it may have some appeal in the "night cap" market...
LK Hyman
13 Oct 2017
Re: Gordon's pink gin ... one for the la... Bill,"It is not Pink Gin... but merely a gin that happens to be pink - there is a world of cultural and social history between the two."Absolutely right, m8! Diageo took a lot of stick a couple of years ago for constantly introducing weird flavoured Smirnoffs but clearly have not learned the lesson. It will serve them right if people say the same thing about this gin innovation horlicks.At the same time it is sometimes the case that one can innovate successfully with an existing brand. A couple of years ago, at the Treatt AGM, they handed out miniature bottles of honey whiskey liqueur. Clearly they were hoping to sell their honey flavouring to big drinks companies. Anyhoo and whatever, that stuff was absolutely delicious. I still have the empty bottle which has a cute little picture of a bee on it [how sad is that?].LKH on the flybridge
Bill1703
13 Oct 2017
Re: Gordon's pink gin ... one for the la... "I concur, almost enough to make me ditch the shares..."And me too... as a confirmed pedant, it really annoys me. It is not Pink Gin... but merely a gin that happens to be pink - there is a world of cultural and social history between the two.I suppose we should at least credit the attempt at innovation.. even though this effort belongs in the "must try harder" drawer.I have no DGE shares to ditch, of course, but I feel compelled to reiterate my prevailing "Strong Sell" view - which, to be fair, has probably more to do with the shares being 20% expensive at the current SP (IMHO, of course, as always...)
old_punter
13 Oct 2017
Re: Gordon's pink gin ... one for the ladies I concur, almost enough to make me ditch the shares.I am reminded of Domecq trying to get trendy and putting some weird juices into an amontillado, it got a big thumbs down at a tasting from the visiting wine group I was with and I think they took notice. DGE needs someone on the board or as a consultant to give such ideas and their M&A a reality check, LKH would be the person.I am not being flippant, note to Ivan, please make him an offer he can't refuse.
LK Hyman
13 Oct 2017
Gordon's pink gin ... one for the ladies Hmmm. I see that Diageo is launching what it calls Gordon's pink gin.At first I thought: "Excellent. No need to go to all that tiring business of getting out the Angostura Bitters bottle and shaking it into two stiff fingers of Gordon's; Ivan is doing the heavy lifting for me by combining the ingredients in a single bottle".However it transpires that he's not using Angosturas (or some commoditised equivalent thereof) ... the feller is using a flavouring of raspberries, strawberries and redcurrants in order to give the stuff a light pink 'blush'. Dear God, is nothing sacred?Diageo risks making Gordon's a laughing stock with this girlyboy launch. It'll become the Blossom Hill of gin if he's not careful.LKH on the flybridge not impressed
LK Hyman
12 Oct 2017
Re: o/t Games,Here's part two, if you haven't already lost all will to live after part one:[link] on the flybridge
LK Hyman
12 Oct 2017
Re: o/t Games,"Can't get it past FDA outside of Indoooneesiia I suspect."I'm sure ULVR's food manufacturing standards are the same high quality worldwide, m8 [removes onion] so I see no reason why the FDA should be a problem.[link] rather sleep-inducing clip is one reason why I am so keen on ULVR shares.LKH on the flybridge Ivan could surely make hooch from black soy beans, no?
LK Hyman
12 Oct 2017
Re: o/t Games,"while he's at it get something in place for online shopping like the rest of the grown up world."Diageo used to have a site called Alexander & James on which they sold various reserve brands at eye-watering prices to people with more money than sense, but they shut it down at the end of January this year.[link] wish they had an online scheme whereby one could buy crates of their standard hooch at a sensible discount to the supermarket price. There would be the risk that they'd upset the supermarkets but, hey, that's a risk I can live with.Likewise Unilever should do the same thing. I'm up for buying deodorant, shampoo, Flora, and mayonnaise by the crate if the price is right, even if, initially, the scheme is only a perk for shareholders.LKH on the flybridge
gamesinvestor
12 Oct 2017
Re: o/t "you should look at something called Bango"nimbo - I'll take a good look at Bongo and see how it reads m8.One other trick up PayPal's sleeve is Venmo -- all the millenials (strange label I know) are using it and it's transaction values jumped from $6.5BN to 8.5BN in a year.As a peer to peer money transfer with social media facilities it's been a real winner for PayPal and it was cheap as chips when they bought it - relatively speaking I mean.Ivan could do with it to pay his web administrator as he can transfer the incentive money straight into the web guys account and send him a message to get rid of all the old products off his dire web site. And while he's at it get something in place for online shopping like the rest of the grown up world.Games -- Oh you critical old !!
gamesinvestor
12 Oct 2017
Re: o/t "why not ffs?"Heh - it ain't called Bango for nowt LK -- it must have some smack in it, innit?Can't get it past FDA outside of Indoooneesiia I suspect.Games
LK Hyman
12 Oct 2017
Re: o/t Nimbo,"you should look at something called Bango"One of Unilever's finest brands ... an Indonesian soy sauce made out of black soy beans known to its aficionados as black pearls. Sadly the brand is not widely available outside Indonesia.LKH on the flybridge why not ffs?
nimbo1
12 Oct 2017
Re: o/t Yes thanks for pointing that out. If you get the chance it is worth watching this programme on bbc 2 - billion dollar deals that changed the world - all about payments and PayPal. As far as tech companies go data is the new oil...and payment data is the highest quality data. I might buy some more PayPal. And if you are interested in payments you should look at something called Bango - to suggest they might be the PayPal is a stretch but they are doing fantastic things with direct carrier billing - read the rns regarding amazon japan and if you fancy looking into it the advfn board is a good source of information. [link] again for O/T to the diageo board.
