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J_Westlock 06 Feb 2019

The arabs & football, what´s the true intention? SaraRacano: Is the primary purpose football interests or provide a platform for the pursuit of further business opportunities which themselves consolidate and strengthen? Surprised you need to ask that one…the phrase “football is all about the fans” is just a con to hide the fact there’s an industry going on behind that. myth. The myth needs to persist however else the reasons for the investment don’t exist. Foreign Investors are interested for a variety of reasons… eg. dubious tax arrangements, offshore money, marketing, advertising, adulation… It would be interesting to find out if for the Gulf states that investing in European/UK football clubs has acquired some recent advantages.

SaraRacano 06 Feb 2019

The arabs & football, what´s the true intention? It´s hardly a loved sport in the arab península. If you look at Man City, as stand-along businesses, the football clubs do not and will not generate the type of profits that interest these types of investors. Manchester City make much of the fact that the club has turned a net profit of £32.2 million in the last three years, but the net losses of the previous five seasons totaled £491.3 million — £121.3 million in 2009/10, £197.5 million in 2010/11, £97.9 million in 2011/12, £51.6 million in 2012/13, £23 million in 2013/14. When you throw in the cost of buying the club, estimated at £210 million, the losses from the 2008/2009 season, which the club do not appear to have published, and the £161 million net spend on players since it signed off its latest accounts, the net loss is probably close to £850 million. If the idea is to generate alternative revenue streams for the post-oil economy, they’re not doing a very good job of it. Is the primary purpose football interests or provide a platform for the pursuit of further business opportunities which themselves consolidate and strengthen? It is definately weird, a quick glance at the bookies odds for this year’s Champions League reveals the extent to which top level European football is now dependent on funding from either Abu Dhabi or Qatar. Manchester City are currently the favourites followed by Paris Saint-Germain. Third favourites are Bayern Munich, whose shirts are now sponsored by Qatar, fourth favourites are Barcelona, who only recently ended a seven-year sponsorship deal with Qatar, and fifth favourites are Real Madrid, who have sold the naming rights to their new stadium to Abu Dhabi.

marktime1231 05 Feb 2019

Excellent results Yes closed the gap quickly to value, so that the dividend is back to being covered instead of being sustained from reserves / asset offloading etc … is that right? Might even see another div increase if the Q4 statement … cost per barrel down to $28 vs $60+ selling price … is the basis of future outlook. Could hit 600p again. But oil is fickle. I wish I had topped up at 520p and may wait until that bargain comes round again.

picstIoup 05 Feb 2019

Excellent results Profit in 2018 more than doubled to $12.7bn from $6.2bn the year before, beating consensus expectations of $11.9bn thanks to a strong performance across the business. All good stuff, and next divi up to 10.25c. Thinking of topping up, not least as crude prices are likely to rise again sooner or later.

SaraRacano 01 Feb 2019

The diesel "disaster" How statistics are interpreted!

SaraRacano 29 Jan 2019

Two leaders with no chance of success in Europe now Spot the difference! DyHCEGfWoAEZ6yM.jpg1024x683 95.5 KB

J_Westlock 23 Jan 2019

The Bitcoin psyop Well Hardcore… I was watching football from late 60s onwards and I can’t recall any ‘sophistication’ in labeling injuries… at least by Managers, Reporters and Commentators… until into the 90s. The ‘metatarsal’ injury only became such with Beckham didn’t it? Before that… it was a ‘toe injury’… remember how Lineker always had a problem toe in later years? Similarly, the ‘cruciate ligament injury’ was a knee or leg injury until the 90s… Until the mid-80s all were treated with a wet sponge. Until the late 70s they were treated by a Defender kicking you off the pitch. If you’re interested further than my above technical anaysis see this (haven’t read it myself other than opening pages): [link] " Over the years the game of football has developed and become faster, more intense and more aggressive. 138 It is a common impression that the risk for injury has increased as a result of this. However, no obvious trend in injury incidence can be seen over the last two decades (Table 1), but owing to differences in study definitions, study periods and populations it is difficult to evaluate this. "

SaraRacano 23 Jan 2019

The Bitcoin psyop There are numerous ways to look at this: Achilles tendon ruptures have a close link to steroids so such injuries may be an illustation of what is going on behind the scenes. Nasri, given a doping ban, they´re all playing the same game! How do the likes of Liverpool maintain that power & pace right through-out the season? Cruciate ligament injury, I can only find 1 West Ham, player that suffered this in the 1980´s, Alan Devonshire. So this is an illustation of the rarity of the injury back in the day. It was not uncommon for 3/4 team members to play a whole season & cup. The rest would be out with Groin/hamstring/ calf. With these super-light balls groin strains are not so much of a problem. I cannot recall QPR, Oldham & Luton, having such injuries on their super hard surfaces, so there is a high probabilty that it is player footwear combined with these hybrid pitches!

J_Westlock 23 Jan 2019

The Bitcoin psyop SaraRacano: It´s really these hard, hybrid pitches that have changed the game on its head. Whether players are faster, more skillfull & fitter these days is a bit contentious. Today´s plastic balls that stay the same weight through-out the game. The only thing I find strange is how there were not more groin strains on the old boggy/muddy pitches back in the days. Those old leather balls really could weigh quite a bit more at the end of the game. I think the old style leather footballs with stitching were ditched well before the end of the 80s tbh. Yep, I agree that players probably aren’t any stronger or fitter but most probably prepare themselves better with less drinking or smoking! Do we have many stats on types of injury going back for very long? Did they keep any such records? Dunno myself…

SaraRacano 23 Jan 2019

The Bitcoin psyop I remember Allen scoring to late goals against Sheff Wed, that´s all I can remember of him. But today´s game is completely different to what it was 25 years ago. There wasn´t the pressing game, basically if they had played that sort of game on the old turf pitches they would have all had dead legs by half time. It´s really these hard, hybrid pitches that have changed the game on its head. Whether players are faster, more skillfull & fitter these days is a bit contentious. Today´s plastic balls that stay the same weight through-out the game. The only thing I find strange is how there were not more groin strains on the old boggy/muddy pitches back in the days. Those old leather balls really could weigh quite a bit more at the end of the game. Now, the game is blighted with horrific injuries. Take the cruciate ligament injury. 28 PL players suffered this injury last season, that equates to 14% of all PL starting 11. I know we have the law of small numbers, but if you add these type of statistics up, a player to suffer this type of injury over his career seriously high. It´s estimated that such an injury costs their club 450,000 + GBP. Yarmolenko´s achilles is another highly horrific injury. If the antibiotics fail, it´s adios to the foot! I wonder whether he will be back. Also do you think players that celebrate goals sliding on their knees fuels cruciate ligament injuries? I think too many players are playing with existing injuries taking pain killers to get through matches then crash, bang, whallop!

J_Westlock 23 Jan 2019

The Bitcoin psyop SaraRacano: That area wasn´t left derelict for nothing! Yep… give it another 20 years and it will be derelict there again. You probably remember the Clive Allen goal that got them promotion straight away the following season too…

SaraRacano 23 Jan 2019

The Bitcoin psyop All I remember about that season was the Kenny Brown, thunderbolt to beat Man United. Who knows what is under the London Stadium, many reports of bad smells, schools being shut down. That area wasn´t left derelict for nothing!

J_Westlock 23 Jan 2019

The Bitcoin psyop SaraRacano: cyrptos are probably where the internet was in 1992 Wasn’t the internet at Upton Park watching the Hammers get demoted again in '92 Hardcore? If so the cryptos are going to get lost in those parts with the new stadium.

SaraRacano 23 Jan 2019

The Bitcoin psyop Here is an interesting video from James Corbett, over Bitcoin & the blockchain. It´s neither a video that is over enthusiastic nor negative about cyrptos but he does raise some very interesting points namely that cyrptos are probably where the internet was in 1992. James Corbett, is a very interesting public speaker & discusses a wide range of subjects.

SaraRacano 22 Jan 2019

Investigative journalism is long dead. Listen without prejudice Check out what this guy states about Britexit, & the real (probable) reasons for the UK´s potential departure from the EU, what you´re not being told & are not supposed to be told. This is not too far off James Corbett, version of events. Any one remember the Cook Report, in the 1970´s & 80´s?