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akaDolly 01 Nov 2015

Vintegrated capitalism? Wonder where the elusive Afriag SA bought their trailers and trucks from. Hope they got mates ratesStill, nothing to do with us, doesnt give Plc any value added

akaDolly 01 Nov 2015

and then of course as Kenny100 sees on 44 Pomono Road Johannesburg, you have PR trailers. Again that would be wild speculation to suggest that has anything to do with with PdRJust means Pomona Road trailers, probablyThis link shows that Afrit has office all over Southern Africa. Cant be anything to do with Afri Ag thoughwww.afrit.co.za/after-sales.html

akaDolly 01 Nov 2015

then I saw this and thought Kenny doesnt look far enough. If you really wanted to look out of the box you could go wild with speculation and theories. Coincidences? Aldi trucks showing up in SA, you have to ask import trade or actually export? Coming home for repairs and resale?The trailer company in Cape Townwww.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=cts%20trailers%20cape%20townwhich is of course a division of AFRIT (see CTS solutions tab)www.afrit.co.za/afrit-group-solutions.htmlAll very interesting when you consider Paul Foley ex of Aldi and now out and aboutYou really need to look at his history to get a feel of the skills and Aldi/Iceland connections [link] also has a finance department, see Finance Tab, Im sure the namesake is just a coincidence though, probably not part of the same familywww.afrit.co.za/afrit-group-solutions.htmlI see they also have, within the same link, an ATLAS pre owned trailer divisionBlimey, you could have a field day if you wanted to let your imagination and speculation run away with you.AFRIT would certainly work out to be a Vintegrated (vertically integrated) companyMore trucks, trailers, finance, insurance companies than you could shake a stick at. They just want a bit of potash and agriculture to stick on to itWonder if anyone already thought of that

akaDolly 01 Nov 2015

I liked this post on LSE by Shylock kenny100, I am invested in Africa and I do research with a view to expanding that part of my portfolio. With all AIM smallcaps, research is necessary to confirm what is stated or claimed in a company's RNS's. Hence, I looked high and wide for evidence that Afriag SA is a bona fide company but the only references I could find were taken from RNS's. So I asked here if anyone could point me to Afriag SA's company registration, address, telephone number, website or any of the other basic essentials that potential customers in Africa would use to find and make contact with the company. Others have asked the same question of David Lenigas on Twitter. But no-one has any answers - including DL who said, incredibly, that potential customers should just make contact directly with him.You, as a shareholder here, may prefer to stick your head in the sand and ignore such questions in the hope they will go away and no-one will notice. But if I were a shareholder, I would be demanding to know the answers because a chunk of shareholder money has allegedly been used to buy a 40% stake in this invisible company. Since I am not, I have the option of simply walking away and crossing Afriag off my watchlist - and that point is fast approaching.

spotyplonka1 30 Oct 2015

Re: Kenny100 on LSE posted this> apols typo, sustainable as in the remaining 999 years

spotyplonka1 30 Oct 2015

Cheap common street ho does cover version [link]

spotyplonka1 30 Oct 2015

Re: Kenny100 on LSE posted this> I like you to posting akDolly, sometimes a revisit to the concept of pan Africanism logistics may give you more encouragement. Just seen in the news, China stopping their one child policy etc etc. Naturally demand for basic food groups will increase. Also processed/ preserved/ perishable meats, fruits, vegetables etc.As kenny100 mentioned on a previous post, for $50, someone could be commissioned to spike a truck tyre. I would do it for $5, if me belly were rumbling - or if me wallet sprung a leak. The trust is gone and so is credit, be more professional, stop being a beige ape, follow the money, follow Mr LithiumI admire Scottish independence and welcome any movement towards agri transport logistics making sustainable profits for the long term, let's say for the next 1000 years on planet earth.atb

akaDolly 27 Oct 2015

Kenny100 on LSE posted this> >Any one invested in a good company.will at times ramp it up from time to time, I consider a little ramping to be normal human reaction on a BB. This then has a tendency to create a steady flow of happy chatter and lifts peoples spirits. Lets face it any one that talks a company down persistently is not invested or enjoys stabbing himself and others in the back...........kenny Well I dont agree with that last sentence. I will put up research that I find interesting, and if I post it here I can go back to it later. However, from experience I also know that no amount of research can protect from top level telling a load of porkies or stretching the truthSo what happens? When nothing is happening doubt sets in. Others bring up the same questions apertaining to that doubt. I think that is actually a good thing. If one person hunts and searches for info and there isnt any, thats not good. If a whole rake of other people hunt and search and come up with the same lack of info, thats a very bad thingIt is clear that there is something missing from the information we have been gven. The story is not as being told to us. There have been a lot of companies on AIM that have been guilty of this, I want to use all avenues to encourage people to ask further questions, They know the people to ask, the contacts, the journalists. I want to be able to harness that, I welcome any publicity for the stock that I holdI havent always thought like that, mores the pityI dont consider bringing up doubts as deramping, and i dont enjoy poking my own investment. I do hold stock in Afriag, first buying in at around 2p and buying since that time. One family bought in at 2p and has not averaged down, so considerably at a lossIt isnt the loss that is that concerning at the moment. Its the fact that we are not being told the truth that is concerning. I do not believe there are lots of trucks running around Africa with AFriag blazed across the backs. Well why isnt there? I was led to believer that was the case. If they are being as third party hauliers well dont tell lies in the first place ie Afriag fleet of trucks. IT IS A LIE and if they lie about that what else are they lying aboutI am not going to post here anymore. I will leave it to others to see if they can find anything, Dont tell honest people they are either not invested or like to injure themselves with a pokey stick. I have heard it all before

akaDolly 26 Oct 2015

are the trucks really hidden in Mauritius Just kidding, but heres a thought..........A Patrice Robillard is Regional Development Director at Allied Group, Mauritius, a privately held groupwww.linkedin.com/company/food-&-allied-groupFrom the breeding of a few chickens in 1966, the Food & Allied group has considerably expanded over the last four decades to emerge into a widely diversified group with five sectors of activity: agro-industry, services, commerce, hotels and logistics. When it enters the poultry sector in the 60s, the country is scarcely independent and has to stand on its own feet. developing this sector, the Food & Allied Group aims at reducing the country's dependence on food imports. In the 80s, Food & Allied consolidates its agro-industrial foundation by engaging in the production of other foodstuffs such as flour, dairy products or fruit and vegetable canning. At the same time, the group engages in the first regional prospects through the setting up of Avitech in Madagascar. Prospects that will be confirmed later… Once its agro-industrial base is well anchored and the country starts emerging from mere production sectors as from the 90s, the Food & Allied Group follows suit and begins to diversify in services. It develops the freight, transport and maritime representation sectors before engaging in those of IT, creative advertising and business hospitality. Because of its proactive optimism and unshakeable confidence in the country's bright future, the Food & Allied Group has emerged today into a most respected group of the local economic landscape.SpecialtiesFood Industry, Farming, Commerce, Business Services, Logistics, HotelsWebsite[link] ProductionTypePrivately HeldHeadquartersMauritiusCompany Size1001-5000 employeesFounded1966SpecialtiesFood Industry, Farming, Commerce, Business Services, Logistics, Hotels

akaDolly 26 Oct 2015

Paul Robillard from Mauritius I had been looking at AFPO, sort of, and picked up that it is being run from Mauritius. I remembered seeing this some time back. Various projects that PdR involved in sugar and Africa. Just picking up bits out of the article I can see PdR probably still has extensive family and farming ties in MauritiusLeaping out of the articles is agriculture, warehousing, sugar growing (that will need Potash), a need for transport and government projectsan EXTRACT fromwww.zoominfo.com/p/Paul-de%20Robillard/98339114THERE couldn't have been many people on the estate that new managing director Paul de Robillard did not have contact with in his first two months at Zambia Sugar. He also met with government ministers, the diplomatic corps, provincial representatives, civic authorities, traditional leaders, local farmers and many other people in related fields. In a letter to staff, Paul thanked everyone for their warmth and hospitality. He said his impression had been very positive and he was looking forward to the challenges ahead and to working closely with everyone at Zambia Sugar for "the benefit of all our stakeholders, within the objectives and context of the Illovo Sugar Strategic Intent." Paul is a "sugar man" through and through. He was born and brought up on a sugar estate in Mauritius where his father was the agriculture manager. After completing his schooling in Mauritius, he left for South Africa and for four years studied sugar technology in Durban. His early years working in the sugar industry included the positions of shift superintendent, chief chemist and process manager. In 1988 he was appointed factory manager at the old Illovo Mill and three years later he moved to Noodsberg as factory manager and then general manager, a position he held for six years. In 1997 Paul was transferred to Illovo's Maragra Estate in Mozambique as general manager. He was there for four years before his appointment as GM Africa Support (factories) and later to new projects, before his move to Zambia Sugar.

akaDolly 25 Oct 2015

old news about Lonrho/Rollex They had a website and lots of addresses, and they didnt mind showing you where they were atShiny trucks they have thereC'mon Afri, dont be shy nowwww.lonrho.com/Doc/RollexCompanyProfile.pdf

akaDolly 23 Oct 2015

copied post From Kenny LSEDonald Strang who is retiring from UKOG to focus on other business interests.He is the new FD at Cuba.Meeting next week with Afriag team, may be a Cuba link for us..............Oh to be a fly on the wall........That would be good. Need to let us have info soon though. All the rhetoric so far has been that trucks are working at full capacity working via Africa

akaDolly 23 Oct 2015

people not happy Seen in various places that people are not happy with the lack of transparency re AfriagSASeveral posters (twitter generally) stating nothing can be found and it doesnt look good. In fact, it looks downright badThis really does need addressing by DL since he is fronting this operation. If it is not addressed very soon it will need to be looked at by other agenciesHope it gets sorted soonI saw one poster stating it was third party haulier. What? as a loan? Sounds a bit dodgy thatAnother poster says that Michel Robillard had never heard of it. Dont know if the poster emailed M Robillard, but if they did, thats a bit of worry tooNeeds sorting pretty damn sharpish

akaDolly 22 Oct 2015

Re: contacting Afriag also, suggest looking at Michel de Robillard, Director, self employed. Formerly Manager, trading RollexNow imports exports, Joburg area wholesale

akaDolly 22 Oct 2015

contacting Afriag If anyone can be bothered, the author of one of the investigative articles can be contacted on the email below, presumablyIt really shouldnt be necessary. DL should be giving this information. It shouldnt have to be a protest call Email [email protected] (authors Sam Sole/Lionel Faull)Authors of BIG TOBACCO IN BED20 MAR 2014 000SAM SOLE, LIONEL FAULLSam Sole can be found on twitter for those that use itTwitter: @SamSoleZA or Lionel Faullmg.co.za/author/lionel-faullExtract from the article -I think the allegations were found to be unfounded De Robillard has previously denied the allegations of cigarette smuggling but did not respond to calls or questions sent to him through his new logistics venture, Afriag.

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