Re: Bottled Water I miss Doc Holiday on twitter. I know that he was a ramping cheeky chappy that looked to sell his wares, but he was interesting. He had style that appealedHe didnt come across as a drunk, or a druggie, or threatening, or weird and cringyTrouble is, he is so likeable it was easy for him to take a following and others could be led down into the abyss of no hope stockSorry DOC, but we dont all know the game and you are a bit of a pied piper. Pity the threatening and cringy ones didnt go insteadWe dont mind drunks and cheeky chappiesHe can be found here[link] was in one of these audios that Doc mentioned info by those in the industry. Well it scared me a bit. I had been looking into a couple of stocks that I think are linked together. One of them, ADSS. If you went into the background of those directors and who they are linked with you would see that they have serious SAS and military logistics backgroundWould be good for any security, IT, warehousing and feeding of the troops (logistical)Certainly we would want these guys watching our back, something I have never had to think about, a warWhat is all this warehousing and logistics upsurge all about. Its all hush hushIts a bit scary
Bottled Water I see a bit of a chat going over on LSE about bottled waterKenny was speccing that Fastjet might want a couple or so million bottlesBet Emirates might want a few more, see it on the front cover of the Afriag mag as mentioned on Lenigas tweetsAlso I noted Emirates are to be the carrier of choice for Obtala, not that we necessarily have any input in there but it still means a busy time for EmiratesI would have thought if Cuba are going fast forward into the tourist/hotel etc industry, that will mean a gazillion millions of bottles of water. I dont think it matters if the water is good anywhere, does it? People will still want the bottled water when they are on holiday so the hotels and resorts will need plenty of itTrouble is, it just wont be any time this monthSee also, to get it out of the way, that Mr Txm Wxnnxfrxth has a lot to say about DL stocksSuppose it all makes for all round look, but have to say this time it is a bit wishy washy blog on this one. Wonder if he was asked nicely to bring the sp down. Not much of an effort there really TomGive us some real insight on Afriag if you want to write something. Things cant be so bad if thats all TW can give us. Still, once again, its all publicityGot to say it, those tweets of DL., blimey, that chap with his barrow load at the airport, that was so funny. DL was having a larf I suppose. International logistics eat your heart out
hope its for PLC twitter.com/DavidLenigas/with_replies[link]
Re: then have a look at this This is Obtala RNS re the 'trader'. From memory, it indicates the trader is an experienced entitiy dealing with the Americas and Europe and is still negotiating www.iii.co.uk/research/LSE:OBT/news/item/1712704/agriculture-update?context=LSE:OBTIts sounding pretty much like the model that is being rolled out in the LGC RNSLGC RNS, in full in previous postwww.investegate.co.uk/leni-gas-cuba-ltd--cuba-/rns/joint-venture-with-cuban-import-export-business/201511030700082984E/Pity about the SP, must be some bloggers shorting. They are not shouting about it at the moment though. Wonder why
Have a look at this London, Havana: 3 November 2015: London listed Leni Gas Cuba Limited (Ticker: CUBA), the Cuban specialist investment company, is pleased to announce it has signed a binding agreement with Cuban centric trading company Groombridge Trading Corporation ("GTC" to form a new unincorporated 50/50 Joint Venture (the "JV" designed to expand GTC's existing business of supplying products, machinery and equipment to the fast growing Cuban tourism sector and exporting agricultural products from Cuba. GTC, established in 2013, is a Canadian registered company that is approved to trade in Cuba by the Cuban Ministry of Foreign Trade and Investment and the Ministry of Agriculture and is further authorised to trade with other Cuban Government entities. The new LGC/GTC Joint Venture will assist GTC with its existing order book of imports for the hotels and tourism sector and will become a financial partner in new business moving forward. The JV will have an exclusive, first right of refusal to participate on a deal by deal 50:50 basis in any current and new transactions originated and operated by GTC. In addition to growing GTC's current trading activities, the new Joint Venture will also work with GTC to develop a number of agricultural projects and initiatives currently under negotiation in country and assist with new export orders of agricultural products to Europe and Canada. GTC's President Christopher Murphy has considerable experience doing business in Cuba and has an extensive network of contacts and relationships in Country. He started doing business in Cuba in 1991, when he established and grew the sugar business of E D & F Man. David Lenigas, the Company's Executive Chairman, commented from Havana; "Groombridge Trading has relationships with some of the largest enterprises in Cuba and has a sound pipeline of imports on their order book mainly focused at present on importing equipment from Europe, Asia and South America, for the burgeoning hotel sector in Cuba and the new Joint Venture will use LGC's contacts and balance sheet to significantly grow GTC's existing business and investigate new lines of import and export trading in a country that imports the majority of what it consumes." Christopher Murphy, GTC's President, commented; "We are pleased to be working with Leni Gas Cuba Limited, one of the few public listed companies in the world specifically dedicated to investment in Cuba." Details of the Heads of Agreement LGC has committed to invest £50,000 into the JV up front and then make monthly payments of £7,500 for the first 12 months as an overhead contribution to the new joint venture and this will be repaid prior to distribution of any profits from the joint venture. The directors of Leni Gas Cuba Limited accept responsibility for this announcement.
Is something stirring? [link] on the Advertising the brand in the Middle East and it shows the Afriag magazine. Publish date Dec 2015. Quarterly magazine for Afriag?Taken from Obtala RNS -Could there be any Afriag Marketing going on?www.iii.co.uk/research/LSE:OBT/news/item/1712704/agriculture-update?context=LSE:OBTCompany representatives recently attended a major fresh vegetable exhibition in Dubai which has resulted in strong demand and interest from eight Middle East based trading companies. The Company is currently finalising packaging requirements for the end users and is in discussions with Emirates Airlines about acting as our carrier of choice for the products.
Re: What d*ya reckon? Also, take a look at what they say about the experience of the marketing people and UK food consultants they will be working with. All very secret squirrel at the minute www.iii.co.uk/research/LSE:OBT/news/item/1712704/agriculture-update?context=LSE:OBT
What d*ya reckon? something or nothingObtala Resources RNS from 6th. Ever so interesting if you have an imagination. No reason to think, well actually, every reason to think, that this could involve us in any wayMy reason for interest is that they took onboard, very recently, Emma Priestley. So what? Well wherever Emma goes, David Lenigas, Donald Strang and Geoffrey White, never seem so far awayMs Priestley also, ex? LonrhoTake a look at what they have to say about the new relationship they have with the "Trader"www.iii.co.uk/research/LSE:OBT/news/item/1712704/agriculture-update?context=LSE:OBT
old stuff From my post 14th July www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/r350m-assistance-package-for-sa-exporters-to-cuba-now-available-2014-09-26
the Cubans fought against apartheid whilst the West discussed it where it was fashionablewww.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/06/nelson-mandela-castro_n_4400212.htmlwww.cuba-solidarity.org.uk/cubasi/article/171/we-do-not-fold-our-arms-mandela-and-cubaleftfootforward.org/2013/12/why-raul-castro-is-speaking-at-the-mandela-memorial-and-david-cameron-isnt/
For crying out loud thats the trouble with traders and people who are paid to sell the company....you dont give a shxt about the real info..you dont even read what has been put upCuba are the best bestest mates of South AfricaHello.....who do you think were helping them all these years politicallyThe CUBANS are the bestest buddiesread the sodding reasearch put up on the boards that isnt put up by those who are paid!!!!
Re: MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BUY HERE I agree YBH, the potential/possibilities are limitless, thats why I have put up so many articles and research/ideasWe can go from supermarkets, value stores (as suggested in RNS)lucerne for Middle East, logistic support for oil companies (food etc)logistical support for companies like ADSS/AFPO (not that there is any suggestion that we would work with them, but they need the transport from somewhere)I looked at Obtala spin of timber, wondered if we could be involved in anything there (only really because of Emma Priestley involvement). Ports being built, really could be a global company, but we need some of view I looked at everything I could, and added to my original investment but I dont feel confident enough to buy moreWhen you hear posters (and I have heard CEOs say it of their own company) if you dont like it buzz off, it needs to be suggested that maybe folk shouldnt buy in the first placeIt needs management to put out as much truthful info as they can. Afriag PLC has invested in a company, AFRIAG SA, we need to know about that company. It was enough in the beginning to know just a little, whilst they got up and running and maybe added to the management team. Two years later and we still dont know anything more, that doesnt come across well. Clearly the market doesnt like itDL was talking about the new Lonrho when he was promoting this. I cant even feel confident in that now. I can see that he is looking to empire build, but with CUBA in mind. I put up ideas/articles re Cuba and Afriag but then I think its just all pie in the sky and specLike you say really, best for anyone not already in to just watch for the time beingNo sales recorded for today, yesterdays buys still there. Nobody is seeing the potential here
Re: MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BUY HERE Morning aka,I've been in, currently out of AFRI and watching. The potential with AFRI is massive, in time. A stroll along your local Sainsbury, or other Supermarket to see where the produce comes from, Kenya for beans, Vietnam for fish & prawns, etc. Seems crazy to me that it's cheaper to grow and transport food across the globe but, that's how it is. Stobart has or had a train load from Spain once a week for Tesco, I don't know the current situation.Considering the size of Africa, that to me is the potential of AFRI, An African logistics Group, the Stobart Group with bells on. A bit of a simplistic view with, as you say, little to nothing to work on, but with the right strategy and management, that is the potential.In the meantime, I'm watching. YB
MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BUY HERE Poster JM over on LSE this morning, suggests if you are not happy with investment here you should sell up. That's not ever so helpful for those that bought in at 2p. For those folk there wasnt ever so much research to do, only info they expected could be trusted because it came from David Lenigas himself over interviews as promosFrom the blurb you could expect there to be other interest and the business would build and take the SP up accordinglyUnfortunately that doesnt seem to have happened. All that has happens and it is emerging more and more, is any funds/profits are not going to benefit any retail investors for a very long time. It is very difficult to find any information about the company. That is not a good thing because it means people are limited in the research they can doThat being the case, if you cant dyor (do your own research), as JM is suggesting you must, it may be better if folk hold off from buying into this in the first place. If you have already bought in, as I have then it wouldnt be a very wise move to sell up simply because I am not happy with the lack of transparencyI wont be buying any more, the price going down is not an incentive, its a further worry
We must try harder, apparently FYI on LSE, Tuesday 22.18, suggests there is information that names directors of AfriAG SA. I dont know if that info is in the public domain or on registers that are not openly available. I have searched all the regions through guessed names, regions etc and I couldnt come with anythingIt would be helpful if the poster could offer us all a link or point us in the direction so we can look for ourselvesEven better if DL gave us the infoLooking at the photos it could appear that we have military contracts. That could possibly be a reason for some secrecy but there still should be plenty of other newsAt the end of the day, it is clearly the case that the Instiftutions have no current interest and neither it seems has anyone elseNo matter what obscure sort of research we put up, it means zilch if the monied people are not touching it with theirsVery worrying